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    Lifetime Member Neil Stratton's Avatar
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    Default What New Classes?

    What new classes do you think we need at the convention?
    I was thinking about:
    How to run a successful business.
    Knowing the difference between profit and margins.
    Becoming a better seller.

    So far on the list from others, we have:
    Time Locks
    Basic combination locks
    Advanced combination locks
    Mechanical combination lock troubleshooting
    Digitizing your files
    Going paperless with invoices
    Straight tailpiece manipulation
    Marketing - best ways to gets new customers
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    I agree.
    Bill Baughman(sp) said he was willing to try to come up with a class if we can't find someone else.

    We need to split the Professional Safe Opening class into at least two catagories. Beginners and Advanced. Both with repairs included, if we can.

    Other catagories to look at:
    Time Locks
    Basic combination locks
    Advanced combination locks
    Mechanical combination lock troubleshooting
    add others.

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    How about a class on digitizing and categorizing a computer database
    filling out and uploading tech bulletins(maybe eve seminar)
    If we get get some of my/our ideas pushed through we may need a class or seminar on getting the most out of your savta membership
    How about a class on going paperless and simplifying business
    Setting up your business and Basic accounting
    Care of tools (scopes) and basic use and care of tools (maybe a half day to couple with another class)
    Maybe some servicing and troubleshooting on Group 1 locks (old class haven't seen for a few years)
    Straight tailpiece manipulation (old class haven't seen for several years)


    I'm still thinking ....may have more later

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    "How about a class on digitizing and categorizing a computer database
    filling out and uploading tech bulletins(maybe eve seminar)"


    Great idea! And I would be willing to help out with that if you need me.
    Bob DeWeese, CML, CPS, CJS
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    I'd like to see a class on effective marketing ***as it pertains to safework***

    Ways to get new customers

    The best way and who to approach

    There must be a better way to go out and find it, rather than putting up a good website, optimizing it for the search engines, than sitting back and waiting for the phone to ring.
    Bob DeWeese, CML, CPS, CJS
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    I would prefer to leave the 'business' aspects alone. One can take training on ones business at any old place: for example the principals of business apply to accountants in the same way they apply to us but I don't want to be an accountant!.
    I can only learn about safes and vaults from the best techs. in the world for one week at one place--the SAVTA convention. Please make the training and classes specific to the arts of our trade.
    I'd love to see classes on timelocks, vaults (installation, penetration and repair), UL and CEN rating standards and testing, safe construction/manufacturing, slick tricks and defeats for e-locks, as well as the standard fair that's usually found.
    Thanks for the opportunity to share my hopes...
    Scott.
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    Scott,

    I don't think anyone was trying to detract anything from the technical classes at the convention. Many of us however are not just the technicians but are also the business owners, sales people, accounts managers, etc. Considering many can only get away for one week a year for 'continuing education', it is helpful to have business/sales classes geared towards managers, owners or anyone involved in the safe and vault businesses.

    Running a safe and vault service/sales business is not the same as running a flower shop or auto repair center. The idea of the convention classes (at least the way I see it) is people can learn about what else there is that can be done to improve their bottom line, besides the technical stuff. Remember the whole point of a business is to make money.

    My 2 cents,

    Elaad

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    Hi Scott,
    There are some that think the same way as you but there are also some that requested we have a class or classes on business. We try to accomodate as many as we can. We run a business class about every three years or so. Sometimes they fall flat and sometimes we turn students away. That's the nature of the conventions. We can't please all the people all the time. I wish we could.

    Thanks for your comments. They are always welcome.
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    How about some online classes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Pusey View Post
    How about some online classes?
    Online classes are difficult to teach when we are on hands on industry. Any suggestions?
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