View Full Version : Where to in 2013?

Neil Stratton
04-17-11, 05:17 PM
Where would you guys like to go in 2013?

Bobby DeWeese
04-17-11, 05:28 PM
If I were thinking with my own interests in mind, I would say Denver, simply because I've never been there.

But in SAVTA's best interest, I would have to say Lexington, because we seem to do our best there.

James Pusey
04-19-11, 07:43 PM
How about Baltimore?

Clifford Lipscomb
04-19-11, 08:03 PM
Reno was good, and profitable last time. Las Vegas would be the next choice.


Neil Stratton
04-19-11, 11:02 PM
How about Baltimore?

We wanted to do a west coast show. I just through in KY for giggles.

Bobby DeWeese
04-21-11, 07:02 AM
How about Baltimore?

Hey... Can I change my vote?!

Joseph Williamson
04-21-11, 04:37 PM
How about back out west to Tinseltown, Los Angeles?

Joseph Williamson
04-21-11, 04:39 PM
What about Tinsletown, Los Angeles? Don't think it has ever been here has it?

Neil Stratton
04-22-11, 12:49 AM
How about back out west to Tinseltown, Los Angeles?

I think they looked at it a while ago, but the costs were too expensive. This is why we ended up in San Diego or Vegas.

Joseph Cortie
04-22-11, 07:56 AM
What about Tinsletown, Los Angeles? Don't think it has ever been here has it?

The first one was there in 1988.

Joseph Williamson
04-22-11, 09:08 AM
Okay then, Vegas!

Joseph Williamson
04-22-11, 09:19 AM
I almost forgot about Anaheim. It is 25 miles removed from L.A. and is the home to Disneyland. From what I understand, it is a very convention friendly place. When you said it was too expensive what do you mean? Hotels, union labor, convention center fees? I understand SAVTA chose the place in S.D. last year because it was non-union and didn't have to have a union member cart every little box onto the convention floor for exhbits. I think Vegas and Reno are both heavy union towns aren't they?

Joseph Cortie
04-22-11, 12:23 PM
I don't remember for sure but I think Vegas and Reno are both heavy union. Our vendors don't like it when it is because they have to pay so much to get their stuff to the booths. We are trying to get as much non-union as we can because of that. The reason we went back to SanDiego was because of the attrition fees owed for not filling the hotel rooms.

Anthony Fiorini
04-23-11, 02:31 PM
Yeech.... Helping the vendors helps SAVTA.

I voted Denver because it's different and non-union.

Andrew Dennison
04-23-11, 06:36 PM
Smaller cities would be preferable. Naturally, I'd like to see SAFETECH stay to the east, but If it is on the west coast, how about Tacoma, Washington or Portland, Oregon? Oh, or how about Sacramento, CA? I have famiiy in that area.

If the listed cities are the ONLY choices, I'd say Phoenix.

Kenny Hiemstra
04-23-11, 07:19 PM
I voted Vegas but will go to the moon if you supply the oxygen... :)

Ken Dunckel
04-24-11, 08:36 AM
SafeTech . . . Why does it need to be in a different city every year?
Why not have it at HQ in Dallas, and have it there every time? And why not have it every other year, like MLA? Anticipation would build and more people would commit to going. Plus, though getting together is great, there isn't that much new happening in this industry that we need to gather annually.

It's supposed to be for the professional furtherance and education of members, not a family vacation trip. Or is it?

It's my understanding there's room and storage space for safes at SAVTA HQ, also for classrooms, and guess what? The organizers don't have to negotiate hotel room promises and union wages for the space.

Also, I hear there are one or two hotels in Dallas. Bet a a collection of grownups who are professionals or striving to be such can figure out how to find our own hotel somewhere within taxi, bus or walking distance of Easy Street.

No unions to fight with re: moving safes in and out, or did I say that?

Neither would the association be footing the travel and hotel and food bills for the entire admin staff for a week. Do you think that costs a couple of dollars? Perhaps some savings of that nature might get SAVTA moving toward black ink figures instead of red.

Another benefit would be that after a visit or two, attendees would start learning their way around Dallas hotels and restaurants, and the favored places would probably be happy for repeat business they could count on.

Also, Dalla is an air hub, direct flights if I'm not mistaken. Myrtle Beach sure wasn't.

As I said, a professional gathering (if that's what it's supposed to be) isn't necessarily about bringing the wife and kiddies for out-of-hotel amusement. Maybe take them on a real vacation. What a concept, eh?

Another option would be to have a series of focused education-oriented mini gatherings over the course of each year, also at HQ in Dallas, then maybe one major conflagration-type event there every other or every third year.

I suppose this sounds totally unrealistic. I really don't care which city a SafeTech I go to is in, because it's not about which city it's in or what's outside or around the hotel. If I want to travel for enjoyment, I'll choose where and when.
Ken Dunckel

Jeffrey Reese
04-26-11, 10:29 AM
One suggestion, when you decide on a location try & look for a date in late April or May. I am willing to bet that I am not the only on who would prefer not to have it in early April. Like everyone else, it's tax time for those of us that run are own business. ;( I have a hard getting my return & paper work back from the accountant, until just before the deadline. I had to skip this years convention, since it was so close to the deadline.

Joseph Cortie
04-26-11, 12:56 PM
Hi Jeff,
We were trying to keep it a little further away from the ALOA convention is the reason it's in early April. We also ran a poll on Clearstar as to when everybody wanted to have it and the poll came out to March and April for the highest number of votes. I agree with you about moving it to late April or May but only because of the weather in most places that time of year. It's a little warmer.

Charles Schaffer
06-15-11, 02:10 AM
Lexington ....

Bruce Burby
09-01-12, 12:15 PM
Well if you are looking to have it on the coast then Oslo would do for use. LOL SC,KY, or Vegas takes use about the same time it the air. Will try to get there this year.

Ken Doyle
09-10-12, 12:54 PM
I will NOT attend another SAFETECH in Lexington. I will not lend my support to the centralization of the safe & vault industry any more than what has already occurred. Las Vegas and Myrtle Beach will never be my first choice, either.

San Diego, Reno, Dallas, Phoenix, Seattle, South San Francisco, Denver, Baltimore. Hell, I'll even go to New Jersey... These are all good!


Joseph Cortie
09-10-12, 01:59 PM
What do you have against Lexington? Open warrant? :)

Ken Doyle
09-11-12, 12:54 PM
Yeah. I clobbered a derby hopeful with my rental car :-)

Pete Shaw
10-02-13, 07:54 PM
If you have been around our industry for 30-40 or 50yrs, you have seen the size of every single convention shrink. Think about the reasons
it is not about the members always. Most of the downfall is related to manufactures and other exhibitors budget being much smaller. Common sense
tells it all your centralization statement is well used.